In this episode of Give an Ovation, Seth Goldman, Co-founder and CEO of Just Ice Tea, shares how he builds purpose-driven brands that promote sustainability and healthier living.

In this episode of Give an Ovation, we sit down with Seth Goldman, Co-founder and CEO of Just Ice Tea, co-founder of PLNT Burger, and board chair at Beyond Meat. From his days as a government major to becoming a trailblazer in mission-driven business, Seth shares how his passion for health, sustainability, and transparency has shaped some of the most innovative brands in the food and beverage industry.
Key Highlights
Making a Difference Through Business (1:49)
“I realized business offered a lasting way to create real change in health, sustainability, and economic opportunities.” – Seth Goldman
Seth reflects on his journey from political aspirations to building brands that drive meaningful impact, from protecting the environment to democratizing access to healthier foods.
Building Purpose-Driven Brands (5:25)
“The best companies create products that positively impact consumers and the planet.” – Seth Goldman
Seth discusses the key ingredients for a successful brand: clear purpose, transparency, and authenticity. From Honest Tea to Beyond Meat, he shares how these values have been foundational to his success.
The Story Behind Just Ice Tea (8:10)
“When Coca-Cola discontinued Honest Tea, we pivoted quickly—and Just Ice Tea is now growing faster than Honest Tea ever did.” – Seth Goldman
Learn how Seth launched Just Ice Tea, maintaining its commitment to organic ingredients, fair trade sourcing, and environmental stewardship while achieving rapid growth.
Empowering Change Through Investment (12:37)
“With crowdfunding, fans and customers can invest and feel ownership in our mission.” – Seth Goldman
Seth explains how PlantBurger’s Start Engine campaign allows individuals to support their mission while participating in the growth of a forward-thinking restaurant brand.
Eradicating Exploitation in Cocoa (17:22)
“At Tony’s Chocolonely, we face child labor in the cocoa industry head-on by creating a rigorous system to drive change.” – Seth Goldman
Discover how Seth’s role as Chair of Mission Guardians at Tony’s Chocolonely helps ensure the brand lives up to its promise of ethical cocoa sourcing.
Challenging the Restaurant Industry (20:47)
“Restaurants should think about how to make their menus inclusive for everyone, whether vegan, vegetarian, or flexitarian.” – Seth Goldman
Seth encourages restaurant operators to embrace inclusivity and creativity, ensuring their offerings delight a wider audience while staying aligned with evolving dietary trends.
Who Deserves an Ovation? (21:44)
Seth gives a nod to Ethan Brown, CEO of Beyond Meat, for staying true to the mission despite challenges, and for continuously innovating the plant-based protein market.
Follow Seth Goldman and His Brands:
LinkedIn: Seth Goldman
Website: Just Ice Tea
Seth Goldman’s journey showcases the power of blending purpose with business to drive lasting impact. Tune in to discover how he’s transforming industries, one mission-driven decision at a time.
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Transcript
Zack Oates – Ovation (00:01.362)
Welcome to another edition of give innovation, the restaurant guest experience podcast, where I talk to industry experts to get their strategies and tactics you can use to create a five star guest experience. This podcast is sponsored by ovation and operations and guest recovery platform for multi-unit restaurants that gives all the answers without annoying guests with all the questions. Learn more at ovation up.com. And today we have what could only be described as just like
the health dream with us today. Seth Goldman, he’s the co-founder and CEO of Just Ice Tea, the co-founder and board chair at Plantburger, the chairman of the board at Beyond Meat. He’s also a Harvard guy, he’s a Yale guy. He’s the co-founder of Honest Tea. I mean, he has just done, if it has to do with healthy things that you put in your body, I feel like…
Seth has the Midas Touch. And I’m so excited to chat with you today, Seth, and learn more about your philosophy and the guest experience and some exciting things that are happening with your businesses right now. So welcome to the podcast.
Seth Goldman (01:12.98)
Thank you, Zach, and thank you for that very kind introduction. Appreciate that.
Zack Oates – Ovation (01:16.802)
Well, it’s easy when all you got to do is like read LinkedIn and it’s like mind blowing. I know I followed you for a while and so it’s an honor to finally have you on the podcast. But I mean, you go to your, your history and I, there’s this common thread of just things that are good for you. And so I’d love to understand where did that come from? How did this desire to live forever without, you know, taking the blood of your 18 year old son? Like how,
Seth Goldman (01:19.87)
Yeah.
Seth Goldman (01:38.56)
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
Zack Oates – Ovation (01:47.032)
How has that affected the business decisions you’ve made?
Seth Goldman (01:49.845)
Yeah. Well, I’ve always considered myself an activist and I actually in college had been a government major. So maybe was thinking about going into politics and as I sort of did some work and I worked in the Senate for a few years, worked in some campaigns, I came to appreciate that a lot of the changes we try to make through political means are challenging, meaning that sometimes they’re short term, sometimes it’s posturing, not real change.
And they can also get undone pretty quickly. And so when I started to explore the private sector, I realized that the opportunity, not necessarily the guarantee, but the opportunity to really make some important changes through how we consume. And I personally got most excited about the idea to protect the environment, to help people lead healthier lives.
And also to think about creating and extending economic opportunities to communities that don’t have it. So that might sound like a political campaign platform, but for me, that’s a business platform that turns out you can create products people really come to not just enjoy, but really adore and embrace. with that, really make some change happen. whether it’s looking at what we did with Honest Kids, getting that into McDonald’s, or of course, you know.
democratizing plant-based protein would be on meat. There’s some changes that we’ve been able to make in the diet that’s really led to important changes in the health profile, what people consume, and obviously their impact on the planet too.
Zack Oates – Ovation (03:26.316)
Now, where did you grow up? Where did you start to think about this healthy mentality?
Seth Goldman (03:29.0)
Yeah, I grew up in Wellesley, Massachusetts. My parents were both professors and definitely not, you know, health nuts. You know, sometimes you’ll talk to somebody and they were the kid who drank, you who ate lentils for lunch or whatever. That wasn’t me. My parents, are our diet and our sort of food traditions were pretty average, right? Very, you know, nothing creative there. It wasn’t until I really started to explore, I did run
Zack Oates – Ovation (03:41.516)
Yeah.
Seth Goldman (03:58.529)
track in college and so was always thinking about sort of what I put in my body as fuel and how to make it healthier fuel. And also the fact that I was thirsty all the time because it was running. So was dehydrating and thinking about how can we create make some more creative solutions. And as I got further into it, I came to appreciate how important organic is. And then I learned about the supply chain on tea and I learned that fair trade really makes an important difference in the communities we source from. And then just getting more into the food world.
and partially through having a family got exposed to first the vegetarian diet and then a vegan diet and really came to appreciate how those choices can really have a profound impact on my health and on what happens to the rest of the planet and the other beings involved.
Zack Oates – Ovation (04:42.936)
So do you, are you, I guess when was the last time you had meat?
Seth Goldman (04:48.033)
Oh boy. Well, I’ve been vegetarian for 18 years. I almost know 19 years. So, you know, there may be a time when someone snucks some meat in, but I certainly never, I haven’t consciously, you know, chosen to eat meat in at least 19 years.
Zack Oates – Ovation (04:59.694)
Ha
Zack Oates – Ovation (05:07.086)
consciously, that means that like, you know, maybe when you’re asleep, someone gave you a bite of five guys or something, but, but it’s incredible to see. And I think that, you know, with all of these different businesses that you’ve been a part of, mean, there’s, there’s a lot of success in there. What are some of the common attributes of the successful companies that you’ve been a part of?
Seth Goldman (05:10.022)
No. Right. Right.
Seth Goldman (05:25.098)
Hmm.
Yeah. So number one, they all are purpose driven. Meaning they all have a recognition that when we create this and do it right, we’re to have a positive impact on the person consuming the product and on the other stakeholders, whether that’s the planet or the people producing it or in the case of Beyond Meat, the animals not involved in the production of a product. So that’s one key pillar. But the other one is transparency. We always want to be
Zack Oates – Ovation (05:32.718)
Mmm.
Zack Oates – Ovation (05:47.52)
Yeah.
Seth Goldman (05:55.489)
as much as we can make this accessible to people. So there’s no smoke and mirrors, there’s no gimmicks. It’s just a straightforward product. So obviously with tea, both the name Honest Tea and Just Ice Tea really speak to the simplicity of what we’re offering. And then we do show, we go to the communities we source from so people can understand when they make a choice for Just Ice Tea, what’s happening to the community, where we’re buying the tea leaves from and how it impacts their livelihoods and frankly, the future of their families.
future of their community. And then I think the other piece, just because we’re always dealing with smaller, know, challenger brands, we have to be scrappy, we have to be resource efficient, we have to think about how to build these businesses without the big advertising budgets. And so one of the ways you do that is through building an authentic brand that resonates with consumers that they feel is, know, personality and a kind of essence that relates to them.
Zack Oates – Ovation (06:53.676)
Now, are there any plans on doing like an herbal iced tea? Because, yeah.
Seth Goldman (06:59.703)
yeah, yeah, we have quite a few varieties, herbal varieties at JustIC. So we have a berry hibiscus. And then we, so we’ve had that. have another, we have some other herbal varieties we’ll be bringing out later this year as well. So yeah, yeah.
Zack Oates – Ovation (07:05.878)
Yes!
Zack Oates – Ovation (07:12.59)
Oh, fantastic. Because I’ve always felt like that’s a huge gap in the market. You know, I don’t drink black tea or green tea. And but I, I used to and I miss the flavor of just like the iced tea. But there’s not a lot of like, you know, a lot of teas that that don’t have black or green tea in them.
Seth Goldman (07:16.96)
Mm-hmm.
Seth Goldman (07:23.551)
Yeah.
Seth Goldman (07:29.194)
There’s some, yeah. Yeah, there’s some beautiful drinks that you can bring out there. I will say that historically, the herbals don’t sell as well as the caffeinated ones, but we still love them and we have some fun ones we’ll be bringing out this year.
Zack Oates – Ovation (07:40.205)
Yeah.
Zack Oates – Ovation (07:43.874)
That’s awesome. Okay, looking at Honest Tea, I mean, obviously, that’s probably one of the most, one of the biggest CPG brands that has come in the food and Bev industry in the last, you know, 30 years, 40 years. And everyone knows Honest Tea, but being a co founder of that running that for 22 years almost, when you are, I’m assuming now you’re like fully out, right?
Seth Goldman (07:56.288)
Hmm.
Seth Goldman (08:10.9)
Well, everyone’s out because honesty got discontinued by Coca-Cola. So, so, know, we, we built the brand. We sold it to Coke in 2011. I stayed on through 2019, but in 2022, I got an unsolicited call from Coca-Cola. They were kind enough to give me the courtesy, you know, to, tell me they were going to have to discontinue honesty. They had basically lost track of the brand during the pandemic, meaning the supply chain broke down. It was sort of not on shelves.
Zack Oates – Ovation (08:16.679)
that’s right.
Seth Goldman (08:40.705)
So as sad as I was to hear that our team pivoted very quickly and we launched Just Ice Tea, which has now been out in the market for about two years and has grown extremely quickly. And so we’re all in on Just Ice Tea and what we’ve seen now is that it’s growing far more quickly. It’s only in our second year, we just passed our second year, it’s larger than Honest Tea was in its 10th year.
Zack Oates – Ovation (09:06.923)
wow.
Seth Goldman (09:07.476)
And we still have so much more growth to happen because we’re still in a third of the stores that honesty was in. So we have a lot of upsides still ahead.
Zack Oates – Ovation (09:17.986)
That’s fantastic. it when you product placement as he drinks it, for those of you watching. When when you sold honesty, and you kind of, you know, obviously, the way that it ended and you were done with it was probably not what you were hoping for. But when you kind of lost some of that control when you sold it, was there was that like a relief? Or is that a burden for you?
Seth Goldman (09:20.768)
Always, yeah.
Seth Goldman (09:46.41)
Well, so we sold in 2011, but I stayed on through 2019. So I really was still continuing to steward the brand and make sure that it was being built the right way. And it’s not a total loss. So Honest Kids is still out and actually is doing extremely well. you know, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So Honest Kids is thriving and, and yeah.
Zack Oates – Ovation (10:01.814)
Okay, because that’s what I was gonna say. Because I mean, I just took my kids to McDonald’s and that’s that’s what they get there. All right, I was I wasn’t I wasn’t gonna correct you when you said they discontinued it because I’m like, wait a second, maybe I’m crazy. All right. No, that makes
Seth Goldman (10:13.518)
no, the tea is gone. Honest Kids is doing great. And Honest Kids is achieving what we had hoped, which was to really expand the availability and adoption of organic drinks. So as you mentioned, going to McDonald’s and getting Honest Kids is something that did not happen 15 years ago. It didn’t exist there. And people don’t go to McDonald’s in general to look for organic drinks. so just through that, I’ve actually seen…
Zack Oates – Ovation (10:33.517)
Yeah.
Seth Goldman (10:43.337)
Honest Kids really become sort of, think it’s probably the most widely adopted organic product out there. Meaning that for millions of Americans, obviously anyone who gets it in a Happy Meal, it’s the first organic drink they’ll be consuming. So for us, that’s a really exciting step. And the other part about Honest Kids that’s so neat is it’s also a much lower calorie drink. It’s a 35 calorie per carton. It replaced an 80 calorie juice drink.
Zack Oates – Ovation (11:08.803)
Yeah.
Seth Goldman (11:11.54)
that was there before. And so if you just take that 45 calorie differential sold, they sell over 200 million units a year at McDonald’s, that’s removing over a billion empty calories from the American diet every year. So it’s really neat to see that kind of impact still go on. As I mentioned, politics, you never know exactly what’s going to stick, but this is one that seems to really be resonating with the customer and as a result is having a real impact.
Zack Oates – Ovation (11:38.754)
Yeah, I mean, as a parent going to McDonald’s, you know, you don’t always think, okay, like, I’m going to make all these healthy choices, let’s go to McDonald’s. But you do feel a little bit better when you know that it’s not going to be this just like sugar bomb that they get. And, you know, when it comes to like the the meat there and things at McDonald’s, they do they do buy high quality food. So I think that that’s one thing that as I look at kind of what
Seth Goldman (11:46.037)
Yeah.
Seth Goldman (11:52.32)
Right? Right.
Zack Oates – Ovation (12:08.428)
you know, that that honest, the honest kids, it’s awesome to see that kind of impact that you’re able to have. And I know one of the things that we wanted to talk about was the ability for people to get involved in some of the things that you’re doing. Like, for example, I know, you know, plant burgers, a brand that I’ve been a fan of for a long time. It took me a few months to learn how to say the name because I was wanted to say planet burger.
Seth Goldman (12:32.449)
Planet that’s okay. We answer to that too. It’s fun. Yeah. Yeah, it’s been really fun to build plan burger. We have 13 restaurants now and It is it’s still early stage But what we’ve just done is a launch to start engine campaign that lets our customers and fans and other followers Invest and build the business with us and obviously ideally be rewarded when we reach the potential we think this has You know, it’s a different world
Zack Oates – Ovation (12:37.942)
and
Seth Goldman (13:01.856)
today than it was 20 years ago, you want to start a business, you definitely had to find high net worth investors and bring money in and often sign over parts of the major parts of the company. But what’s neat today with these crowdfunding campaigns is you can have people invest a small amount of money, but they still get to be part of the action. They still get to feel a sense of ownership and they still have to really build these next generation future looking companies.
The Start Engine campaign is exciting for us and we’ve seen a really nice response.
Zack Oates – Ovation (13:35.404)
Yeah, I was one of the people that was able to participate in that. it’s, yeah, well, it’s, it’s awesome. And then I, and I love that to be able to put some money behind brands that I believe in. And I love that there’s, you know, historically, some of these restaurants that are, you know, vegan, that are vegan friendly restaurants, they have not done super well, right. And they’ve struggled. And I look at Plant Burger, and it’s like,
Seth Goldman (13:38.27)
Thank you. That’s right. Yeah, I appreciate that.
Seth Goldman (13:46.399)
Mm-hmm.
Seth Goldman (13:58.219)
Yeah.
Zack Oates – Ovation (14:02.06)
you know, I get a little bit of the the back end view because I get to see what custom unfiltered feedback is coming in from the customers. And the great thing is that, you know, people like me who you know, I eat meat every single day. It’s, I love it. Like it’s it’s a great product. It’s delicious. And they’ve it’s a really cool looking brand. Like there’s a lot of really great things about Plant Burger that that I love.
Seth Goldman (14:06.72)
Yeah.
Seth Goldman (14:23.796)
Thank you. Yeah. Yeah.
Seth Goldman (14:30.593)
And it’s being well run. mean, that’s one of the challenges, as you know, a lot of restaurants, not just plant based restaurants, just don’t make it. And so to see every restaurant being of the 13, all of them are profitable to see the businesses itself profitable is really rare when you’re only at sort of the scale we are. So that that’s exciting too. And then, know, New York, Boston. Yeah.
Zack Oates – Ovation (14:50.283)
Especially in New York where the leases are like wild.
Seth Goldman (14:54.881)
And the other piece is that it allows people to do it in a lower risk way. remember when I was launching honesty and my, my oldest son was just starting elementary school. And one of the parents said, Hey, I’d to invest some of my kids’ college money in honesty. And I’m thinking, Oh my gosh, first of all, like I’m going to be seeing this guy for 13 years. His college, like if he loses kids’ college money, his kids aren’t going to college. I felt like a big responsibility. And what’s nice about a start engine campaign is you can put even a few hundred or a few thousand dollars in.
And it is, know, every dollar you put in means something. And it certainly means a lot to us, but it’s not like someone has to bet their kids’ college money on this. And what the postscript on that with Honest Tea was that actually got to speak at his oldest son’s high school graduation. And by that time, he had gotten his money. I said, I’m glad to say, you know, we’re going to be able to pay for college. Your parents will be able to pay for college.
Zack Oates – Ovation (15:51.519)
Okay, so he did invest his kids college fund. he did. Okay.
Seth Goldman (15:53.202)
He did invest, yeah, it worked out, but it was still a little nerve wracking for me.
Zack Oates – Ovation (15:58.37)
that’s funny. I had a family member who invested in ovation. And it’s one those things where it’s like, all right, well, if you’re gonna put money in, I want you to pretend like it’s gone, right? It’s give it to me as a gift. And then, you know, maybe one day you’ll get something back from it, right?
Seth Goldman (16:08.288)
It’s tough. A lot of pressure, a lot of pressure, but it is rewarding when you can deliver on it. I think, like I said, my first impulse is to resist it, but then the next impulse is to recognize this person wants to be part of that opportunity. it creates, I would say, some positive pressure. We really do take on a serious obligation when we take people’s money. And we need to certainly.
be as responsible as we can with it.
Zack Oates – Ovation (16:41.44)
Now, with all these things going on, Seth, I know that you’ve got some, I’m sure you’ve got a lot of exciting things happening. And by the way, I totally forgot to mention the fact that you’re also involved in Tony’s Chocoloney, which is a great company. you know, I’m one of these guys where I eat candy every single day. What I do is I have a
Seth Goldman (16:53.214)
Yes, yep, wonderful company.
Seth Goldman (17:03.135)
Mmm.
Zack Oates – Ovation (17:05.43)
I have a box of candy in my in my closet. And then I’m allowed to whatever I can fit in one handful I could bring to bed and like that’s that’s the only way that I’m able to like portion control myself. But so how does how does chocolate fit into all of this?
Seth Goldman (17:12.244)
Wow.
Seth Goldman (17:22.986)
Well, again, the purpose driven company. So Tony’s has this commitment to eradicating exploitation in the cocoa supply chain. And in the case of cocoa, it’s really a concern around child labor. And they have set up what I really believe is the most rigorous inspection and enforcement system to help their supply chain move away from child labor. Now, the challenging part of this is there is child labor in
the supply chain. Tony’s acknowledges it. There’s a lot less in there. There’s far more. The prevalence of child labor in their supply chain with their cooperatives is about 3%. When you go outside of Tony’s, it can be as high as 50%. So it’s really a challenge. you know what? I give them credit. They just said, look, we’re not going to pretend it doesn’t exist. We’re not going to try to take this elsewhere. We’re going to engage in the ground in the countries where it does exist and really try to address it. And so
Zack Oates – Ovation (18:06.028)
No way.
Seth Goldman (18:21.182)
That’s hard work, but it’s one of the reasons that brand is so beloved. It’s also one of the reasons that brand is growing so quickly. So that’s a fun role in my job as chair of the mission guardians is to help make sure the company lives up to the obligations it’s taken on around that labor. Yeah.
Zack Oates – Ovation (18:37.048)
That’s powerful that they even have a whole mission guardians. Their mission is so important to them that they’ve created a group to oversee to make sure that they’re adhering to their mission.
Seth Goldman (18:41.78)
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, and it’s because it’s and it’s not that their board doesn’t care about that, but the board ultimately is accountable to the shareholders and the mission guardians are accountable only to the mission. if there’s and and so that is a, you know, it’s a different and new role. That’s one I really enjoyed. And I got to last year, went to Cote d’Ivoire, Ivory Coast to see and learn more about how cocoa is sourced.
Zack Oates – Ovation (19:10.67)
That is amazing. That’s super cool. Well, Seth, what other cool things are going on? What other things should we know about with your menu of your I feel like this is like your life is like the the Cheesecake Factory menu of like all these cool things going on. I don’t know what to pick to talk about.
Seth Goldman (19:14.791)
Yeah.
Seth Goldman (19:23.584)
Thank you. No, it’s fun. There’s a lot of evolution happening in people’s diets and on menus. And I think we see it at Beyond Meat as well. think one thing I would say, I would challenge and encourage all restaurant operators to think about is how to make your offerings available to everybody. And so as a vegan, part of a vegan family,
I can say that it’s always both surprising and disappointing how many restaurants just don’t even think about the need to appeal to a wide audience. And I’m not talking about just to please vegans because even with Plamford, we always say it’s not, this isn’t a restaurant just for vegans. That’s too small a business model. But you always want to be as inclusive as you can. So how do you make sure as many people as possible can come and…
You know, one of the themes I know you always focus on Zach is how do you create that delight with the customer? How do you create excitement? And for me, it’s to show that, you know, we’re thinking about you and to provide these different options. And just as an example, last night, my wife and I went to a wonderful pizza restaurant. Everything there could be, you had a vegan choice. Um, and the alternative to that is when you go to restaurant and there’s no vegan options and you’re, know, what do you have that’s vegan? Well, we have pasta.
Zack Oates – Ovation (20:41.88)
Yeah.
Seth Goldman (20:47.524)
That’s not very exciting. That’s not very creative. so just show, taking that extra step, especially, I’m in California this week where not that there are more vegans out here, but there are more people who are flexitarian. there’s some people who just want to have those plant-based options and just challenging the restaurants to make sure they can provide food to everybody. That for me is, I hope.
and encourage the restaurants to think evolving in direction.
Zack Oates – Ovation (21:20.288)
I love that. And by the way, that’s why I wore this shirt today. Cause I have, I have shirts that have a lot of cooked food on them. This one is my shirt that has all the chickens are alive, which is why I wore this shirt today for you, Seth. well, we’re, one of the things I want to know is you, know, so many people in this industry, who is someone that deserves an ovation? Who’s someone that we should be following?
Seth Goldman (21:23.552)
Yeah, I love that.
Seth Goldman (21:30.89)
They’re having fun. Yeah. Thank you.
Seth Goldman (21:44.065)
Well, you know, I would say a company like Beyond Meat, Ethan Brown CEO there is one who’s been working super hard and you know, that whole sector got attacked by the meat industry and you know, what I’ve been impressed by with Ethan and the team is how they’ve just stuck to their mission. They’ve continued to challenge themselves, know, and seen Beyond Meat evolve the portfolio products. So you now have where they were.
There had been attacks around some of the oil. They switched over to avocado oil as the source of fat in the burgers. But they’ve also really stuck to their mission. haven’t been, I’d say, intimidated or dissuaded from doing what they’re doing. And then that’s hard when a public company like that comes under that kind of pressure. one reason it matter this week is to help and provide encouragement and support to that business. And then, of course, I’m also out here selling tea. So I never.
Never traveling without multiple agendas in mind.
Zack Oates – Ovation (22:45.311)
I mean, this has been such a cool conversation and I’m really excited about it. Where do people go to find and follow you?
Seth Goldman (22:53.877)
Yeah, on LinkedIn is where I’m most active and it’s just Seth Goldman there. Obviously, Just Ice Tea has a very busy Instagram and TikTok activity, but I don’t have my own sort of separate personality. They’re just on LinkedIn.
Zack Oates – Ovation (23:09.61)
Okay, awesome. Well, make sure and we’ll make sure to put this in the notes, but the start engine.com forward slash offering forward slash plant burger PLNT hyphen burger, where you just Google start engine plant burger and this goes I believe until well, time, time is running out on this one. So I know there’s an end date in mind. I believe it’s in end of q1 or in March or something like that, right?
Seth Goldman (23:12.148)
Mm-hmm.
Yes, yeah, we’re playing Prager.
Seth Goldman (23:35.54)
That sounds right, yeah.
Zack Oates – Ovation (23:36.726)
Okay, so go go check that out. Go be a part of the the vision and the mission and join Seth and turning turning chicken safe again, right? So for making healthy cool again, Seth, today’s ovation goes to you appreciate you coming on given ovation. So fun to hang out with you.
Seth Goldman (23:46.142)
you
Seth Goldman (23:55.284)
Thank you, Zach. Great to be with you.
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